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- Info-Hams Digest Sat, 27 Aug 94 Volume 94 : Issue 966
-
- Today's Topics:
- [Q] On how to program Cardinal sound card, article. where ?
- Converting Grid to Lat-Lon
- Handies and NiMH accus?
- Internet Packet Gateway
- Ragchewing conversational protocol
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- Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 14:50:42 GMT
- From: news.cerf.net!nntp-server.caltech.edu!netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!newshub.ccs.yorku.ca!newshub.ariel.cs.yorku.ca!cs902034@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
- Subject: [Q] On how to program Cardinal sound card, article. where ?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hello world,
-
- Sometime ago, someone called Johan Forrer wrote an article in QEX , AUGUST 1994
- issue on how program Cardinal sound card...
-
- Right now, I have the SDK for that article, but I don't know where I can find
- a copy of that article.
-
- Can anyone help me out what is the long name of QEX and what is the publisher ?
- Or, can anyone send me a copy of that article thru mail or FAX ?
-
- Any help will be very appreciated !!!
-
- Arthur Chow
- Fax : (416)292-2364
- Office tel : (416)292-0038
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Aug 1994 13:00:33 -0700
- From: nntp.crl.com!crl4.crl.com!not-for-mail@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: Converting Grid to Lat-Lon
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <9408250942.ZM25231@SALCIUS2>,
- Wayne_Estes@csg.mot.com (Wayne_Estes) wrote:
-
- > I'm looking for a DOS or Windows program that can:
- >
- > A. Convert 6-digit Maidenhead grid to Latitude/Longitude.
- > B. Convert Latitude/Longitude to 6-digit Maidenhead grid.
-
- Wayne -
-
- The attached Quick BASIC program will perform the functions you
- mentioned above. Sorry, I don't know who was the original author, so
- can't give appropriate credits.
-
- 73 de Lou / N5SGL
- --------------------------
-
- 'Grid Square <-> latitude/longitude conversion
- '
- START:
- CLS : COLOR 0, 7: PRINT "GRID SQUARE LOCATOR": COLOR 7, 0: PRINT
- PRINT "Which do you want to convert FROM?": PRINT
- COLOR 0, 7: PRINT "L"; : COLOR 7, 0: PRINT "at/Lon ";
- COLOR 0, 7: PRINT "G"; : COLOR 7, 0: PRINT "rid ";
- COLOR 0, 7: PRINT "Q"; : COLOR 7, 0: PRINT "uit": PRINT
-
- RPT1:
- a$ = ""
- DO
- a$ = INKEY$
- LOOP UNTIL a$ <> ""
- IF UCASE$(a$) = "Q" THEN END
- IF UCASE$(a$) = "L" THEN GOTO LL
- IF UCASE$(a$) = "G" THEN GOTO GRID
- GOTO RPT1
-
- LL:
- CLEAR : e9 = .000001
- CLS : COLOR 0, 7: PRINT "LAT/LON": COLOR 7, 0: PRINT
- PRINT "Enter SOUTH latitude and EAST longitude as NEGATIVE numbers."
- PRINT
- INPUT "LAT (DD.MM)"; l
- IF l < -90 OR l > 90 THEN RUN
- INPUT "LON (DDD.MM)"; o
- IF o < -180 OR o > 180 THEN RUN
- os = SGN(o): o = ABS(o): ls = SGN(l): l = ABS(l)
- la = (INT(l) + (l - INT(l)) / .6) * ls
- lo = (INT(o) + (o - INT(o)) / .6) * os
- IF lo < 0 THEN lo = lo + 360
- w3 = 180 - lo: IF w3 < 0 THEN w3 = w3 + 360
- w1 = INT(w3 / 20 + e9)
- w2 = INT((w3 - 20 * w1) / 2 + e9) + 48: w1 = w1 + 65
- w3 = INT(24 * (w3 / 2 - INT(w3 / 2)) + e9) + 65
- l1 = INT((la + 90) / 10 + e9): l2 = INT(la + 90 + e9 - 10 * l1)
- l3 = INT((la + 90 - 10 * l1 - l2) * 24 + e9)
- l1 = l1 + 65: l2 = l2 + 48: l3 = l3 + 65
- g$ = CHR$(w1) + CHR$(l1) + CHR$(w2) + CHR$(l2) + CHR$(w3) + CHR$(l3)
- PRINT : PRINT "Grid square = "; UCASE$(g$)
- LOCATE 24, 1: PRINT "< Press a key to continue >";
- a$ = "": DO: a$ = INKEY$: LOOP UNTIL a$ <> "": GOTO START
-
- GRID:
- CLEAR : e9 = .000001
- CLS : COLOR 0, 7: PRINT "GRID SQUARE": COLOR 7, 0: PRINT
- PRINT "Enter 2-, 4-, or 6-character grid square."
- PRINT "Short ones will be optimized to center of square.": PRINT
- INPUT "Grid square"; g$
- g$ = UCASE$(g$)
- l3 = LEN(g$): IF l3 < 2 OR l3 > 6 THEN RUN
- IF l3 = 1 OR l3 = 3 OR l3 = 5 THEN RUN
- SELECT CASE l3
- CASE 2
- g$ = g$ + "55LL"
- CASE 4
- g$ = g$ + "LL"
- END SELECT
- LOCATE CSRLIN - 1, 1: PRINT "Grid square = "; g$; " "
- RESTORE
- FOR x = 1 TO 6
- READ y$, z$
- t$ = MID$(g$, x, 1): IF t$ < y$ OR t$ > z$ THEN RUN
- NEXT x
- DATA A,R,A,S,0,9,0,9,A,X,A,X
- w1 = ASC(LEFT$(g$, 1)) - 65
- w2 = ASC(MID$(g$, 3, 1)) - 48
- w3 = ASC(MID$(g$, 5, 1)) - 65
- lo = 180 - 20 * w1 - 2 * w2 - w3 / 12 - 1 / 24
- IF lo < 0 THEN lo = lo + 360
- l1 = ASC(MID$(g$, 2, 1)) - 65
- l2 = ASC(MID$(g$, 4, 1)) - 48
- l3 = ASC(RIGHT$(g$, 1)) - 65
- la = -90 + 10 * l1 + l2 + l3 / 24 + 1 / 48
- IF lo > 180 THEN lo = lo - 360
- ls = SGN(la): la = ABS(la)
- l = (INT(la) + INT((la - INT(la)) * 60) / 100) * ls
- os = SGN(lo): lo = ABS(lo)
- o = (INT(lo) + INT((lo - INT(lo)) * 60) / 100) * os
- PRINT
- PRINT "LAT (DD.MM) ="; l
- PRINT "LON (DDD.MM) ="; o
- PRINT
- PRINT "(SOUTH latitude and EAST longitude shown as negative numbers.)"
- LOCATE 24, 1: PRINT "< Press a key to continue >";
- a$ = "": DO: a$ = INKEY$: LOOP UNTIL a$ <> ""
- GOTO START
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Aug 1994 19:18:40 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!usc!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!fc.hp.com!news.lvld.hp.com!scott@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Handies and NiMH accus?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Detlef Marxsen (dema@astrax.hanse.de) wrote:
- : Hello *,
-
- : I'm about to buy a 2m / 70 cm handy.
- : I would like to know if there are NiMH accus available for handies.
- : Do all/few/no brands offer that kind of accus?
- : I hate the memory effect of NiCd accus ...
-
- Are you sure you really want NiMH's? My experience with them in a
- Toshiba Laptop have been extremely disappointing. You may hear of
- reduced shelf life with them. *Extremely* reduced is more like it. Within
- 24 hours, mine seem to be down at least 50%, and after several days,
- they're essentially flat. They also seem even more susceptable to heat
- than NiCd. A couple of hours in the back seat of my car (in a carrier
- bag) on a warm day, and both of my recently charged packs were stone dead.
-
- Note: these are, obviously, just impressions based on about 8 months
- of usage with two packs. I've not made any attempt to scientifically
- measure the differences. I do know that given my use model for my HT,
- I'd be *extremely* reluctant to go to NiMH technology batteries.
- Environmentally friendly they may be, but that still doesn't make them
- useful.
-
-
- Scott Turner KG0MR scott@hpisla.LVLD.HP.COM
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Aug 1994 15:56:54 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!darkstar.UCSC.EDU!news.hal.COM!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Internet Packet Gateway
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article 0100000@rain.org, ojthach@rain.ORG (Casa de Piedra) writes:
- >There is also a internet <-> packet gateway at wb7tpy and n0ary. To
- >obtain info on using the gateways. For Wb7tpy, send a message to
- >david@stat.com. For n0ary, send a message to bob@arasmith.com. Hope
- >this helps
-
- Oops, that would fill up my mailbox :(
-
- For information on the N0ARY gateway send an empty message to:
-
- gateway_info@arasmith.com
-
- and to get information on the N6QMY gateway send your message to:
-
- gateway_info@lbc.com
-
- same bbs code, same services.
-
-
- ---
- Bob Arasmith
- bob@hal.com (work)
- bob@arasmith.com (home)
- n0ary@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na (packet)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 05:08:51 GMT
- From: vigra.com!news.vigra.com!steve@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Ragchewing conversational protocol
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- -=> On 25 Aug 1994 17:35:12 GMT, papo@briscas.gamekeeper.bellcore.com (25383-anaya) said:
-
- > Ragchewing conversational protocol.. Hmmm.. I'm having problems with
- > ragchewing myself so I'm going to write a couple of things regarding
- > this subject [...]
-
- Well well.. looks like I'm not alone! I've had my ticket for two
- months or so, and I'm starting to get frustrated with the constant
- stream of ham-radio talk on 2m and 440. Sometimes it seems like it's
- all talk about repeaters, ham gear, FCC this-and-than, and Nets.. I
- myself simply can't imagine getting excited about QSL cards and
- contests. :-) (To each their own, I guess.)
-
- > I am having a hard time being understood at the other end and I do
- > not know if it is the rig or if it is me or what's the problem.
-
- Have someone nearby check out the rig, or swap with someone for a
- while. It sounds silly, but make sure you're using the right angle
- and distance for the microphone. This can make a big difference.
-
- > Anyway, I'm starting to get dissapointed with VHF ragchewing, I've
- > seen better opportunities for conversation in a bar full of couples.
-
- Heh heh.. yup!
-
- > Well, maybe because people do not know what to say. It is hard to
- > sit down and talk, specially if you are introvert.
-
- Yep. As an geek and introvert, I have to agree. :-)
-
- I think I've narrowed it down to a couple of hangups, for me anyway:
-
- 1) You don't know anything about the person you are talking to. Even
- when you meat someone in a bar, you can look at them and tell if they
- are neat and buisnesslike, grungy, friendly and smily, sour, or
- what. Radio gives you none of that. You're just a voice, with no
- T-Shirt logo hints for favorite interests and such.
-
- I think that's why conversation always seems to revert to
- ham-radio. It's the only thing you know you have in common.
-
- 2) It's half-duplex! This is hard to explain, but if you make some
- joke on the air, you have no idea if anyone even chuckled, or groaned.
- Telephone gives you this. Same for the "ack-grunts" that let you know
- the other person is still there and following along, and maybe agrees.
-
- Another problem is that you can't interject like you're used to in
- full-duplex. You can't just wait for the other person to subtly say
- "Hmm" or "Yes, but". You just say your piece, and then step down.
- It's almost subconcious, but real conversation isn't at all like this.
- Often you talk until they have something to say. You can also stop
- talking when they don't look interested. :)
-
- 3) There is too much "clubness" to local air chatter. It's just
- loaded thick with jargon and jive like QSL, "monitoring", XYL, and
- such.. That's normal for any hobby, I guess, but sometimes all the
- protocol really gets in the way of a good talk. (Ask me in a few
- years, and see if I've QSY'd :-)
-
- 4) There really are some folks out there that are much more interested
- in excersizing the RF spectrum than having a stimulating
- converstion. They are always testing this or that feature, or
- talking on three bands at once, tweaking the antenna, checking
- their signal, or accessing every feature of the repeater. I'm
- hoping these people are just few and verbose.
-
- > Many of those loner and geeks are introverts, they might feel more
- > comfortable doing CW, packet or RTTY than phone.
-
- Naw.. packet conversation is just as unstimulating, at least what I've
- seen. It's all ham-chat.
-
- Just imagine a Usenet with *only* the news.software.* hierarchy, and
- you have a parallel. :-)
-
-
-
- What to do about it?? Well.... it's just like a telephone, I guess.
- A radio is only as interesting as the person on the other end. It's
- my job to find cool people to talk to, and seek out meaningful
- conversation.
-
- Try finding someone you know well that is also a ham, even if they
- aren't on the radio any more. Lend them an HT or get them to dig
- theirs up. Somehow, those conversations are always just fine. I
- guess this just shows it's easier to sustain an enjoyable conversation
- with someone you know than someone you don't.
-
- -Steve
- still learning the ropes..
-
-
- Steve Haehnichen Vigra, Inc. San Diego, CA
- steve@vigra.com (619) 597-7080 x116 Fax: (619) 597-7094
-
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